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Jenny Lisk is the author of Future Widow, Losing My Husband, Saving My Family, and Finding My Voice. Jenny is a best-selling

author and widowed mom who is dedicated to helping widowed parents increase their family's

well-being. In her book Future Widow, Jenny draws on her personal and professional experience to provide

a real life guide for surviving and thriving while raising grieving children. Her show, The Widowed

Parent Podcast, draws on over 100 interviews with experts, seasoned widow parents, and people who

lost a parent at a young age. It brings much needed resources to widowed parents, helping them feel less lost and alone. Jenny's work has been featured in the Washington Post and Parent Map. Welcome, Jenny. Thank you so much for coming on Mom's Don't Have Time to Read Bucks to discuss future widow, losing my husband, saving my family, and finding my voice. Oh, thank you so much, Zibi. I've been looking forward to this all week. Aw. All month. Yes, it's fantastic. I've had this on my bedside for the past, you know, week or so as I've been reading it. And my husband's like, is there something I should know? Like, you know, so yeah. Yeah, you know, I didn't really think of that when I named it, but the title was just too perfect. So I don't think I would change it even if I thought of that. But yeah, that's an interesting reaction. No, I know. And I know, you know, you know, it came, well, I'm assuming it came from when you were invited to that group in the hospital and you were like, is this the future

widow's group or something? Right? Is that when it? Yeah. Well, two things. There's that.

And then also I felt like, you know, I was very much in the spotlight during this eight months.

My husband was sick, particularly, you know, we had a large community following us, helping us,

which was terrific. And I felt very much in the spotlight. And so I would go

to pick up the kids at school. And I remember walking around feeling like, you know, in the scarlet

letter, Hester. Yes, that's right. I remember that section? Right. Yes, yes. I felt like I had an

FW on my shirt, you know, future widow. And like I was walking around and people would

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