Jenny Lawson Wants You to Be Okay

The Book Case

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Fiction, Arts, Society & Culture, Books

4.7 • 913 Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2026

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Jenny Lawson is Kate’s all time favorite humor author. Obsessed since her first book, Let’s Pretend This Never Happened, Kate saw she had a new one out, How to be Okay When Nothing is Okay, and she actually whooped. Loudly. In this book, Jenny shares the different tools and tricks that she uses to try to right the ship, when she is sinking in depression. But this is not your average advice book. It’s hilarious. Seriously. It is also moving, personal, and, well, helpful. Join us when we talk to one of the great humorists of our generation. She also happens to own an independent bookstore in her hometown of San Antonio Texas, Nowhere Books. We talk to their assistant manager and events coordinator, Vicky. Have a listen for a laugh and some good advice…. Find books mentioned The Book Case: https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/shop/story/book-case-podcast-reading-list-118433302 Books in this week's episode: How to be Okay When Nothing is Okay by Jenny Lawson Broken (In the Best Possible Way) by Jenny Lawson Furiously Happy by Jenny Lawson Let’s Pretend This Never Happened by Jenny Lawson Quietly Hostile by Samantha Kirby Me Talk Pretty One Day by David Sedaris Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	9-1-1, where is the emergency?
0:02.7	It's the middle of the night in a small town on the Jersey shore.
0:06.7	Someone reports an abandoned car on a bridge.
0:10.0	A search gets underway for the missing driver, 19-year-old Sarah Stern.
0:14.9	Is it a missing person? Is it a suicide?
0:17.6	At this point, nobody knows.
0:19.6	Old friendships, buried cash, and a sinister plot that was once pitched as a movie, plays out in real life.
0:29.0	I'm Jiu Chang from 2020 and ABC Audio.
0:33.4	Listen now to Bridge of Lies, wherever you get your podcasts.
0:46.5	Music Listen now to Bridge of Lies, wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and happy Thursday book nerds.
0:49.1	Spring is knocking on our door, and I am very, very excited about today's show because it is an author,
0:55.4	of which I am a huge fan. So we'll hurry up and get to the introductions and live them down
1:00.4	quickly. I'm Kate Gibson. And I'm Charlie Gibson, and if you live in Minnesota, you're
1:04.7	hungering for spring. I live in the state of Washington, and it's lovely. It's a beautiful day, and there's no rain. And I know it becomes a joke about the state of Washington and all the rain. I don't mind it, but it will be nice to have it a little warmer.
1:22.4	But that being said, we always get one really angry snowstorm in April. Prince wrote the song, sometimes it snows in April.
1:29.1	A lot of people think it's a metaphor.
1:30.9	It was not.
1:31.7	Prince lived here.
1:34.2	As Kate alluded, we have a brand new book for your consideration this week.
1:38.6	It's a Jenny Lawson book.
1:40.2	The name of the book is How to be okay when nothing is okay.
1:45.0	And it is, well, Kate's a big fan and I have become one.
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