Hello and welcome back to Franklin Covey's twice weekly podcast on Leadership

with Scott Miller where I'm honored to serve as your host each week on

Tuesdays and Fridays where we release now for six years nearly 400 episodes taped video

and audio formats where we shine Franklin Covey's Uber bright spotlight

after 40 years of becoming the world's most trusted

leadership company onto thought leaders that we think can make you better, more

effective, more trustworthy, more vulnerable, a better leader, a better people. more interview minds that have expertise on aspects of life that make you a better leader

inside your organization.

But oftentimes we compliment perhaps these researchers or CEOs or business titans with people that bring insights and

joy and frivolity to life. Usually they're authors but not always and today I am

honored that Jenny Lawson is joining us. You know her as a force of nature in the

blogosphere. Her books have brought light of day to a taboo topic known as anxiety, depression, mental illness,

I would argue that she is one of the voices that gave permission to the world to normalize the conversation

around various forms of mental illness and did it in a way that no one has done it

before or after her. Her books are prolific. They are known as

Broken in the best possible way. Let's pretend this never happened, a mostly true memoir, and then my absolute favorite, just by the cover alone, is furiously happy, a funny book about horrible things.

Joining us from Texas, Jenny Lawson, welcome to On Leadership.

Hello, thank you for having me.

What is going on behind you?

Now the majority of our listeners can't see this,

but we have a large audience that joins in audio

and to their delight in horror in equal parts.

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