This is the beautiful writers podcast. I'm Linda Siebertson, and today's show is going to be a little

different in that we're bringing on one of the world's biggest literary agents, if not the

biggest, and one of her clients for an intimate behind-the-scenes look at the kind of partnership

I think every writer dreams of.

Jennifer Rudolph Walsh is head of the worldwide literary department at William Morris Endeavor,

and we have best-selling novelist and memoirist Danny Shapiro back with us as guest host.

You guys, this is major.

Danny, if you remember from last month's show with Danielle

O'Port, just wrapped up her tour for her memoir, Hourglass, a book that Jennifer sold. By the way,

Jennifer also represents Oprah, Oprah Winfrey, and Cheryl Sandberg and Ariana Huffington and Brune Brown. Can you stand it?

You are not going to believe how I got her on this show. It was so crazy. And a very cool

example, I believe, of how something that started off a little awkwardly could quickly turn

into divine providence. But that wasn't the only surprise awaiting me here.

Danny and Jennifer are far more woo-woo and witchy than I would have guessed. But then again,

of course they're magical. How could they be such bright lights, creating and holding space for

characters and stories and voices that touch millions.

How could they do all that and not be tapped in?

Jennifer loves her job running WME.

She's a diehard friend.

She adores her kids, her longtime husband, and she's a fiend about reading.

And yet, God only knows how.

She has carved out time to create life-changing

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