Alex Jones on trial is one of the biggest media stories of the year and the

headline right now on CNN.com Thursday night August 4th says jury finds Alex

Jones caused $4 million in damages to two Sandy hook parents but this is just

the beginning even though this corporate seating has been going on for quite

some time. The first finding of compensatory damages was around $4 million

but now there'll be a ruling about punitive damages. Those are awarded when

the court finds that the defendant's behavior was especially offensive and the

defendant in this case is Alex Jones and there are other trials coming up as

well. Other questions about whether we're all now living in Alex Jones as

America. So let's get to those questions here on this week's reliable sources

podcast. Let's cue the music. I'm Brian Stelter and this weekly podcast is our

chance to go in depth with media leaders and newsmakers talking about the

story behind the story. In these defamation trials, these cases that have

piled up against Alex Jones are really a test a test of the courts and a test

of these juries and judges who are being challenged to look at these broadcasters

who lie for profit. Jones put up a defense in this case in Texas. It's been in

the headlines all week but on Thursday evening the jury responded with a

$4 million damages decision and like I said, there's more to come. So I asked

Oliver Darcy and Jennifer Merchie to talk with me about this. We actually taped

on Thursday afternoon before we knew the exact amount of the damages ruling but

as you're going to hear, this conversation was much broader about Alex Jones,

what he represents and the future legal challenges he faces. All right, so let's

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