My guest today, Jennifer Loudon, is a personal growth pioneer who kind of helped launch the

concept of self-care with her best seller, the woman's comfort book.

Since then, she has written seven additional books on well-being, whole living, including

the woman's retreat book and the life organizer with close to a million copies of books in

print in nine languages. She also leads retreats and workshops internationally has written for many

different places, including Martha Stewart magazine, been profiled all over the place, included in

two of Bernay Brown's books, appeared in hundreds of TV and radio shows. He made on Oprah, which we

talk about because there's a really interesting and unexpected twist on that. And now she is in this

moment of her life, where she's kind of being called to re-examine who she is, to reimagine the life

that she wants to craft after some major disruptions and changes, and ask the question at this point in

life, why bother? That in fact is the title of her new book, Why bother, Discover the Desire for

What's Next. And we touch down on so many pivotal moments and awakenings in this why-graining and

moving conversation cannot wait to share it with you. I'm Jonathan Fields, and this is Good Life Project.

Did you have any sense for what lit you up when you were younger? I always wanted to make stuff. I

always wrote, I made films, I wrote a plays, I was always making stuff. I, yeah, from a very early age.

So were you aware of the fact that that was your game from an early age? I don't think, you know,

when I, it's hard to go back is now we think so much about what's our purpose and, you know,

what's our, where did we come from? But I don't think there was ever anything else for me.

That I, I always wanted to create stuff. And I, I, I think it became toxic at some point for me as,

as an adult, because it became about identity and being special, but as a kid it was just pure

creativity. What, okay, so looking back in those early years as the maker just really takes the lead,

do you have a memory of a story of like the coolest thing that you made?

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