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Hi, everyone. I'm Rachel Zoe and you're listening to Climbing in Heels.

This show is all about celebrating the most extraordinary superwomen who will be sharing their incredible journeys to the top, all while staying glamorous.

Today I'm speaking with a longtime friend, well-known jewelry designer.

I am quite certain you've all heard of, Jennifer Fisher.

Together we talk about how Jennifer's career began and when she transitioned from

styling to jewelry designer.

And of course, how it started with the birth of her firstborn child.

Jen also worked with her husband and we definitely have a ton in common, both all the highs,

all the lows, all the in-betweens.

But I think it's pretty clear she's had quite a journey.

I can't wait for you to hear this interview and I hope you love this episode as much as I do.

All right.

So we know each other for what feels like 100 years through this crazy industry.

And when we launched our businesses almost like the same time at doing different things,

but like really we've been on a very similar trajectory in terms of like timing your husband

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