Hello and welcome to the Origins Podcast. I'm your host Lawrence Krause.

Jenny Boylan is a skilled and witty author and university professor of English who provides an important and unique perspective on the world.

She's a trans woman who transitioned in 2000,

and has described her experiences in several brilliant memoirs,

the most famous of which is, she's not there,

which generated a host of questions I wanted to ask her about.

I was privileged to first meet both Jenny and her wife, Didi,

about four years ago in Aspen, when we were both speaking in an event, and I was so taken first meet both Jenny and her wife, Didy, about four years ago in Aspen,

when we were both speaking in an event, and I was so taken with our discussion that I invited

her to participate in an Origins Project event on sex, gender, and reproductive rights a few years

ago. While Jenny is one of the most eloquent national spokespeople on transgender issues, I wanted to have a

personal discussion with her about how her own transition impacted on her writing and her views

of the world, and also the views of others about her. Her reflections are particularly important

and relevant now as transgender individuals are once again under attack.

We discussed all of this as well as issues of religion, where we have slightly different perspectives.

Our discussion was warm, personal, and eloquent, and I found it to be one of the most enjoyable

we've recorded to date.

Patreon subscribers can find the full video of this program and all our programs the day they

are released at patreon.com slash origins podcast. I hope you enjoy the show. Jenny, it's great to be with you again.

Hey, Lawrence, what's happening?

Last time I was in Arizona, and now it's in New York, a totally different world.

A sea change.

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