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The Russell Moore Show

Jennie Allen on The Lie You Don't Know You Believe

The Russell Moore Show

Russell Moore

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.7 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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A bonus episode with bestselling author and friend, Jennie Allen, on the occasion of her new book, The Lie You Don’t Know You Believe. Watch the video of this episode on YouTube here. Many people live with a persistent sense that something is not quite right—a low-grade hum of anxiety, insecurity, or striving that never seems to go away. In this bonus episode, Russell Moore talks with author and Bible teacher Jennie Allen about the hidden lies that can quietly shape our lives for years. Drawing from her brand-new book, The Lie You Don’t Know You Believe, Allen argues that many of our struggles—whether feelings of worthlessness, being unlovable, or helplessness—can often be traced back to stories we began believing long ago. Russell and Jennie discuss how those beliefs form, often in childhood moments that seemed small at the time but quietly shaped a person’s identity. Along the way, they consider how faith, self-reflection, and grace can help people see their stories more clearly without turning the process into an exercise in blame. The discussion also moves outward—from personal struggles to cultural ones—touching on why people crave recognition, why fear so often drives public life, and how Christians can respond without being ruled by anxiety. Ultimately, Allen points toward a simple but demanding path: recognizing the lies that bind us and fixing our eyes on Christ. Resources mentioned in this episode: The Lie You Don’t Know You Believe by Jennie Allen Keep up with Russell: Sign up for the weekly newsletter where Russell shares thoughtful takes on big questions, offers a Christian perspective on life, and recommends books and music he's enjoying. Submit a question for the show at questions@russellmoore.com  Subscribe to the Christianity Today Magazine: Special offer for listeners of The Russell Moore Show: Click here for 25% off a subscription. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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to having you join us. I do think when he says his load is light and his burden is easy. I'm like,

1:05.0

oh, okay, well, how do we get that? It's like, well, you may have to lay down some things.

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today. Here, we look for signposts in a strange time by standing fast to what really

1:24.6

matters, kingdom over culture wars, truth over tribalism, pilgrimage over

1:29.3

partisanship, sanity over cynicism, witness over winning, and Christ over everything.

1:35.6

Today we have a conversation to do just that.

1:43.5

Some people say that one of the most damaging things to happen over the last 30 years is the movie The Matrix, which if you remember, came out around the same time as a bunch of other movies around the same theme, Truman Show Show, Sixth Sense, things like this,

2:02.7

that all suggested we're living in an illusion and somehow you have to break through the

2:08.7

illusion. And that has led some people say to all kinds of paranoia and conspiracy theories

2:14.2

and other things. But what if you actually are in an illusion? How do you know

2:22.2

if you're being lied to and how do you know if you're lying to yourself? Jesus said something

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really strange when he said not try harder and you'll be free, but you'll know the truth and the

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