Well, obviously these are incredibly strange times.

And let's go down to the state of Oklahoma.

Jenny Carlson of the Oklahoma is joining us here on Heartland College Sports Weekly.

I'm Pete Mundo.

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Jenny, let's start off with just the 30,000-foot view of how the universities and the state of

Oklahoma are handling this from not just OU and OSU. I mean, it seems like the power fives will be

okay, but we're really

starting to see the smaller schools get and have big effects coming out of this.

What are you starting to see down there?

Yeah, I think it's, I think there's still a sense of wait and see, you know.

I think there's a lot of unknowns at this point just in terms of, you know,

what happens with football season in the fall, such an economic driver.

But, you know, there's also the question of donations, you know, what do major donors,

what was their situation in terms of giving and ticket sales, those sorts of things.

Joe Ciglione, the OU Athletic Director, was on a conference call.

It seemed like it was a couple weeks ago, but time has really become a factor.

I can't think it doesn't hurt anymore, but he did a conference call and said that at that point,

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