No. Hi.

Hey, Caleb.

Good morning, Jana.

Good morning.

Look at you. You don't look like you just went through the ringer.

You already recovered?

Well, I've had like a week, but yeah, I'm coming around.

Wasn't in too bad a shape coming out this year compared to past years.

So just tired.

Third time, World champ, right? Tactical games, third year in a row.

I suppose you could call it world. You're dipping into world now because we just went overseas this year.

But I would say this year was technically a national championship still because we didn't have a lot of international representation.

Do the tactical games have a like a sister org or a competitor? Is there anyone else who does what tactical games does in the space at that scale?

At that scale, no.

There is a competitor, you could call it, does similar stuff. to my understanding it's at a a much lower scale

right now okay then world champ it is yeah okay cool whole hey is the other organization in the

united states it is okay is it related is it a splinter? Is there like drama there?

Or it's just like, no, there's room for more in the space? Um, if there is, it would be really

old drama. I don't think anyone in the current spaces of either party would know about it.

Um, because I think this, if there was a split or a fruition of the second one that it happened a long time ago um so i don't

personally know of any any drama and i think that the competitors that compete in the other one do

kind of come and compete in in tactical games as well 15 stages in the tactical games 2005

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