Hey friend welcome to the mere Christians podcast I'm Jordan Rayner.

How does the gospel influence the work of mere Christians?

Those of us who aren't pastors or religious professionals,

but who work as artists, oil rig workers and concierges?

That's the question we explore every week and today I'm posing it to my good friend Jenna Viviano Dunay, a brilliant former executive at City, the New York Stock Exchange and the Muse, currently doing brilliant work

through recruit the employer, helping companies fire their neighbors as themselves.

Jen and I went deep on five things Christian leaders can do to fire their neighbors as themselves.

We talked about the spiritual and business benefits of investing

in employees after you lay them off. We also talked about the sign that I

recently hung in my podcast studio to help me stop working like an orphan?

You're not going to want to miss this episode with my friend Jenna Viviano Dunne.

Jenna, welcome back to the Mir Christians podcast.

Thank you for having me back. I know it's been quite a few years. I think I was one of the early, early guests way back when when you started this.

I think you were episode like, I don't know, number five or six, I remember because I recorded that first batch in

Franklin we actually did your interview in Franklin in that cool little studio

near downtown all right so you've had a busy five years. You're married, you got a daughter.

How would you describe the last five years?

Um, beautifully chaotic, I would say, yeah.

I think when we first chatted, I had just met my husband, I think husband I think and we were starting to date and yeah since then we got married in

2020 which was like the worst year to get married. We got remarried again in 2021 in front of everybody and then we had a daughter in

2023 and I'm actually pregnant with our second so you know nothing like you know a lot of

things in a short period of time yeah I love it which by the way we're not going to

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