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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Jemele Hill and the Jay-Z-Target Partnership: Is It a Big Deal?

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.711.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2026

⏱️ 120 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel discuss the results of the L.A. primary race, before reacting to the death of a one-year-old at the hands of police. Then Jemele Hill joins to talk boycotts amidst a deal between Target and Jay-Z. (0:00) Intro (13:43) L.A. mayoral primary race results (31:36) Mississippi police shoot and kill one-year-old (54:41) Jemele Hill joins the show (1:25:43) Tyra Banks sues Netflix (1:42:26) Knicks parade reactions (1:50:07) Twerking church mom Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Jemele Hill and Estelle Producer: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producers: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Yo, yo, yo, thought words, what is up?

0:11.5

Higher learners on.

0:12.1

Is I Van Lazy Jr.?

0:13.1

And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.

0:14.5

Okay, we got Jamel Hill talking about Jay-Z and Target in the second.

0:17.8

It's a good conversation.

0:18.8

It's a nuanced conversation, which I feel like it's necessary around this. Some people listen, want to hear us go in the second. It's a good conversation. It's a nuanced conversation, which I feel like is necessary around this. Some people want to hear us going on Rock Nation and Jay-Z. Some people want to hear me. They think we're obsessed. We try to have a good conversation. We did. But back to what you were saying, I don't know many guys that I would want. I don't have a whole bunch't have a whole bunch of friends. Let me set this.

0:37.6

Van said to me,

0:38.6

he's been trying to get guys to date me, which makes me sound desperate. That's not what I said. Okay, well, how did you say it? What I said was when there's a guy that I think is eligible that's like going to come on the podcast, that I'll say, yeah, you should come on the podcast

0:54.4

and then you should also take Rachel out on the date.

0:57.4

So. is eligible that's like going to come on the podcast, then I'll say, yeah, you should come on the podcast

0:54.6

and then you should also take Rachel out on the date.

0:56.8

So I repeat, Van said, and back me up, Jade, Bernard,

1:02.4

Jade is back guys.

1:03.4

She's taken, she's been gone for weeks.

1:05.8

Jade's back.

1:07.9

Well, y'all remember Jade.

1:09.9

I saw Jade yesterday. Welcome to you. Welcome back. Jay, nah, she's been doing a thing. Jade, did he not say I've been trying to get guys to date, Rachel? That's not what I said. I didn't say that at all. I actually didn't say that for true. What I said was, maybe I did say that. You did. Okay, I did. And I know you don't mean this, but I said, oh, my response was, oh, that makes

1:32.8

me sound desperate.

1:33.7

And because you haven't brought anybody to me, I was like, does nobody want to date me?

1:38.3

Okay.

1:38.5

So this is the deal.

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