Jehovah's Witnesses: "Michael Jackson Was Just 'Michael' to Me"
Was I in a Cult?
Liz Iacuzzi
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🗓️ 30 March 2026
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
As a young teenager, Darls Centola was searching for something steady in a chaotic world. What she found was the Jehovah's Witnesses—a religion that felt warm, structured, and safe.
What she didn't expect to find… was him.
Not the King of Pop. Not the global icon. Not Michael Jackson.Â
Just Michael.Â
A shy, curious, thoughtful teenage boy looking to her for religious guidance.Â
What unfolds is almost impossibly pure. Two kids hiding behind their school not to smoke pot, but to talk about faith and opening orphanages one day—all while trying (and failing) to suppress feelings they aren't allowed to feel.Â
Because inside their dogma, a crush isn't just a crush. It could get you killed at Armageddon. And as their bond deepens... so does the control.Â
Until the belief system that brought them together… is the very thing that tears them apart.
This isn't a story about fame. It's not a takedown. And it's not a defense.
It's about first love.Â
And a deeply human, intimate look at a version of someone the world thinks it already understands, set against the very real, very damaging impact of cult abuse.
And the uncomfortable truth that both light and darkness can exist at the same time.
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Today, Darls Centola is a licensed clinical social worker, educator and EMDR consultant with a focus on the impact of spiritual abuse and high control systems.Â
She has written a memoir about the innocent and heartbreaking time in her life inside a cult with teenage Michael Jackson from the POV of that young girl. A time that didn't just change her life... but may have quietly shaped his too.
Purchase Darls' memoir here:Â "Finding Truth with Michael: A Memoir of Friendship, Faith and First Love"
Find Darls' workbook and other resources on her website:Â findingtruthwithmichael.comÂ
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| 0:55.9 | Gosh, I don't even know where to start with your story. |
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| 1:02.0 | Your book brought me to tears. |
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