Jeh Johnson: On Trump, Newsom, Noem, Padilla, & America’s Homeland Insecurities

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.8 • 4.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2025

⏱️ 92 minutes

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John is joined by former Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson to discuss President Trump’s deployment of National Guard and Marine Corps troops to Los Angeles in the face of protests of his immigration policies. Johnson explains how he would have assessed the situation in LA if he were still leading DHS; the dangers of tasking the U.S. military with domestic law enforcement; and his view of the forcible removal of California Senator Alex Padilla from a press conference held by DHS Secretary Kristi Noem. Johnson also weighs in on the controversial deal struck by Paul, Weiss—the storied law firm from which Johnson will soon retire after 30-plus years as a partner—with the Trump administration after being threatened with a punitive executive order. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:13.0	featuring lively in-depth conversations with the people who cruised the corridors of power in America,
1:18.4	sculpting, shaping the ebb and flow of our politics and culture.
1:23.2	I first met Jay Charles Johnson when he was serving as Secretary of Homeland Security under Barack Obama,
1:28.7	and I will say that the guy struck me as super impressive straight out of the shoot.
1:35.1	He was calm, cool, collected, obviously smart, also careful and cautious to a fault.
1:42.8	Or so I thought at the time, you know, that careful and cautious could be a
1:46.0	fault. Only now do I realize fully and appreciate fully the value of those traits and someone
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