Hey, this is Deconversion Therapy. This is Karen.

This is Bonnie.

And hello and welcome. And we have a lot of of new listeners so Bonnie and I are two ex-vangelicals and we grew up

together since we were one year old we were really good Christians better than you and one of us

fizzled one of us studied themselves out of it, and that's why we do this today.

We offer no help, no good sources, no scholarly insight.

We're just here for a little lightweight stuff, although today we might be talking about some more, you know, a tad serious.

Not terribly traumatic, but a tad serious.

But before...

It is traumatic.

Oh, it is.

It is.

And before we get into a lot of that, I just want to say, thank you for people who've been reviewing us. That really helps. As you know, we sort of got attacked by a few angry people who don't like that people leave the church. so they gave us one star reviews without actually

reviewing. They just gave us the rating. Anywho, you guys have been doing such a nice job

at writing reviews for us and giving us five stars. If you would please continue to do that.

And if you haven't done it please do that you'll be blessed

and then find us on TikTok and Facebook and Instagram Instagram

and sometimes Twitter

Twitter is like the ugly stepchild of social media.

I know that I'm doing less and less of.

Oh, and we, for sponsorship, we have a newsletter that we send out.

And because it's been busy, we decided, you know, we'll send out a newsletter,

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