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All right, joining us today, Eric Deggins.

How about that?

TV critic, journalist, author, pundit.

You can call yourself that if you want.

I don't want to call you that.

I'm too good a mood to call you.

I'm not sure what that means, but I just, I like the sound of it.

And television critic for NPR.

Eric, thanks for coming on, I appreciate it.

Always a pleasure.

First, I wanted to talk to you a little bit about the Emmys.

We had the big Emmys coming up and they released the list of nominees a week or so ago and how did you feel about those nominees overall?

It's interesting I sort of felt like you know I've been covering TV for a long time since 1995 and usually when the

Emmys roll around you write that column where you just complain about all the

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