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You're listening to the Jeff Fisher show.

Broke through with a book called Confessions of Congressman X.

And Robert joins us here on the broadcast today.

And Robert, we kind of broke down a little bit of the book a few weeks ago and

found it I find it fascinating.

When you were when you were putting this together do you have the impression that X is in the

majority?

Oh absolutely you mean as far as the comments he makes in the book?

Yes. Yes very much so and what he says

crosses both party lines for both Republicans and Democrats he is a he is a Democrat

as you know although he admits he's a closet moderate, but he won't admit it,

for fear the liberals in Congress would drum them out.

How many times did you hear some of these before you took to writing them down for history?

Well, first of all, you should know know that back way back in nineteen seventies uh... i was on capital hill for

ten years as the chief of staff and also the press secretary to

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