Hey, everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table.

I am your host, Sean Duffy, along with my co-host and my partner in life, Rachel Campos Duffy.

Thank you, Sean.

Well, today we're back with more conversations from the kitchen table.

And today, Sean, we have another great guest.

It is Jeffrey Tucker.

Jeffrey Tucker is the founder and president of the Brownstone Institute.

He's written many, many articles.

He speaks and writes on economics,

technology, social philosophy, culture, your favorite subject, Sean, cryptocurrency. He's just

written a book called Liberty or Lockdown. And that's why we mainly had him here, though. I have to

tell you, when I look at his bio, I mean, he's a convert to traditional Catholicism.

We could have him here for three hours, I think, but we're only going to have him here for about 30.

We like everything about you, Jeffrey, and we're really honored that you would join us on the show and help us understand what's happening today.

I mean, all of us feel, at least in my circle of

friends and family, like something weird is going on. And when I read one of your articles, I've

read many of them, but this one on how fanatics took over the world, I was just moved by that. So why don't we just start? Tell us how the

fanatics took over the world. What's happening right now? These are big questions. I feel like I should

be asking the review. I don't have the answer to people. It stopped me all the time. I say, why, why?

And I'm always a little bit stumped, you know.

I wish I had a clean, clear answer to it.

But so much is going wrong.

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