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The Book Case

Jeffrey Toobin Examines The Presidential Pardon

The Book Case

ABC News

Fiction, Arts, Books, Society & Culture

4.1766 Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Politics are heavily loaded in today’s America; we seem to be so angry at one another.  Jeffrey Toobin’s newest, The Pardon: The Politics of Presidential Mercy, is a fascinating and oblique way of examining politics,  studying the history and use of the Presidential pardon.  Both Democrats and Republicans have made huge partisan mistakes with pardons, contributing to the cynical way that pardons are viewed today.  Want to know some of the mistakes that led us to such an angry election?  Tune in and hear why one of the best political journalists in the country thinks it might have all started with Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon. Find books mentioned on The Book Case: https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/shop/story/book-case-podcast-reading-list-118433302   Books mentioned in this week's episode: The Pardon: The Politics of Presidential Mercy by Jeffrey Toobin The Run of His Life: The People v. O.J. Simpson by Jeffrey Toobin American Heiress: The Wild Safa of the Kidnapping, Crimes and Trial of Patty Hearst by Jeffrey Toobin The Nine: Inside the Secret World of the Supreme Court by Jeffrey Toobin Homegrown: Timothy McVeigh and the Rise of Right Wing Extremism by Jeffrey Toobin A Vast Conspiracy: The Real Story of the Sex Scandal That Nearly Brought Down a President by Jeffrey Toobin The Oath: the Obama White House and the Supreme Court by Jeffrey Toobin True Crimes and Misdemeanors: The Investigation of Donald Trump by Jeffrey Toobin Too Close to Call: The Thirty Six Day Battle to Decide the 2000 Election by Jeffrey Toobin All the President’s Men by Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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So this is the program that makes the case for books, all kinds of books.

0:40.9

It's the bookcase with Kate and Charlie, a two-generation, two-gender, podcast.

0:45.7

And you don't get that just anywhere, folks.

0:47.9

I mean, that's a pretty rare thing to get.

0:50.3

Anyway, I'm the Charlie Gibson part.

0:51.7

And I'm the Kate part, and I'm really excited that you

0:55.1

are here. And just so that we can work in all of our catchphrases, I will add one more. We are,

1:00.4

wherever free podcasts are sold. Yes. That's, yes, exactly. Sometimes people laugh about that,

1:06.2

and sometimes I say that, and they look at me like, huh? At some point we can...

1:11.6

So we know the irony.

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We're just saying to you at home.

1:15.3

We do understand the irony of what we just said.

1:17.6

It was meant to be ironical.

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Right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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Not ironic.

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We have sometimes had the pleasure of talking to people that I have known in a past

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