Is this going to get us all blown up if we don't have a little bit more common sense?

NATO hadn't actually encroached. He is preemptively doing this.

You seem very reliant on accepting Putin's worldview.

Russia throughout its history has always believed in keeping some safety from the West, which has repeatedly invaded Russia.

It's good for superpowers to keep a little distance.

The United States, they lied, they cheated, and they started the expansion.

It's an argument you've espoused on Russian State TV.

Yeah, I tell it everywhere.

Why are you not as censorious about Putin doing the thing that you feel so angry about what you say

American's done?

If they took Ukraine as a member of NATO, we will end up in nuclear war.

President Putin wants peace, at least that's what he wants you to believe.

The Russian dictator has for the first time outlined his terms for a ceasefire in Ukraine.

He's demanded the complete withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from four regions, which are currently

occupied by Russia, which it claims to have annexed.

Italy's Prime Minister, Georgia Maloney, speaking this weekend's Peace Summit of World Leaders,

said he's effectively telling Ukraine to withdraw from Ukraine.

But if Putin's real aim was to feign innocence for his apologists

and score another propaganda victory, he may have been successful.

Well, to debate all this, I'm joined by Professor Jeffrey Sachs,

returning to uncensored.

Professor, great to see you.

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