This is Ross Coulthard and you are listening to That UFO Podcast.

Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast my name is Andy and I am joined

finally by my guest today after a few months of trying to get them get them on and

myself postponing himself postponing but here we are. I've got speaker, author, researcher and creator of the

Archive of the Impossible at Rice University. Dr Jeffrey Cripo. Jeff, welcome to the

podcast.

Thanks Sandy. Happy to be here even though it took a long time.

It did and you have been someone that people have... I don't just say this because it would be

BS otherwise but people have asked to have you on for quite a while so it's nice to finally get this one over the line as such.

If it goes really badly no one ever has to hear it I just wouldn't release it but that's never been the case. The case yet I'm looking forward hear it. I just won't release it, but that's never been the case.

The case, yeah, I'm looking forward to it and Jeff, there's a whole lot of ground to cover

potentially with you that I feel we're going to have to get you back on at another time to cover

to cover various aspects.

There might be a little bit of a sidebar.

But I also want to cover your recent time

at the Saul Foundations inaugural conference.

But I want to start off talking about you,

your own background. And what's been your journey to getting to this point

discussing quote unquote the impossible?

Yeah, I mean it's been a long journey.

I'm 61 years old and my journey began probably as a child. I was

Uber Pious. I was super Pious. I grew up a Roman Catholic in a German farm family and small business owner in Nebraska in the middle of the of the US and I became very religious and I wanted to be a monk and I joined a seminary and

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