Jeffrey Epstein on the Couch: Part IV
The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast
Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast
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🗓️ 30 March 2026
⏱️ 13 minutes
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Summary
Narcissism, antisocial, pedophilia… A lot of psychiatric terms have been used to explain Jeffrey Epstein. We’ll look at what fits.
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Published On: 03/30/2026
Duration: 12 minutes, 34 seconds
Chris Aiken, MD, and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP, have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this
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| 0:00.0 | Jeffrey Epstein may have a psychiatric disorder, but not the one he often is accused of having. |
| 0:10.4 | Welcome to the Carlisd Psychiatry podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003. |
| 0:16.3 | I'm Chris Agen, the editor-in-chief of the Carlatt Psychiatry Report. |
| 0:20.0 | And I'm Kelly Newsom, a psychiatric MP, and a dedicated reader of every issue. |
| 0:27.2 | Last week, we reviewed a post-mortem analysis of Jeffrey Epstein's personality by forensic psychologists |
| 0:34.0 | who used the Harr Psychopathy Check checklist to assess antisocial traits. |
| 0:39.6 | The average adult scores four on this 40-point scale. |
| 0:43.6 | Prisoners and sex offenders score around 22. |
| 0:47.3 | Epstein scored 29, just under the 30-point cutoff for clinical sociopathy. |
| 0:53.2 | But the breakdown of his score is more revealing. |
| 0:56.8 | The psychopathy checklist has two factors. Factor one captures the core features of a skillful |
| 1:03.2 | antisocial, charm, manipulation, pathological lying, lack of remorse, shallow emotions, |
| 1:10.7 | and lack of empathy. |
| 1:12.8 | Epstein scored a perfect 16 out of 16 there. |
| 1:16.5 | Factor 2 captures behavioral problems, impulsivity, criminal history, parasitic lifestyle, poor self-control. |
| 1:25.8 | These are not the hallmarks of a quote successful antisocial, |
| 1:29.5 | and it is here that Epstein lost points. |
| 1:32.2 | He was calculating, patient, strategic. |
| 1:35.5 | He wasn't getting arrested for bar fights. |
| 1:37.7 | He was cultivating relationships |
| 1:39.8 | and managing his image. |
| 1:43.6 | Music and managing his image. |
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