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The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Jeffery Epstein on the Couch: Part II

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast

Health & Fitness, Alternative Health, Medicine, Mental Health

4.7524 Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2026

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

Does money lead to happiness? What kind of stress causes depression? Why the FDA change their requirements for new drug approvals? And what happened between Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell that launched an enterprise of abuse?

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Published On: 03/16/2026

Duration: 16 minutes, 49 seconds

Chris Aiken, MD, and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP, have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.

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0:00.0

The Epstein story gets stranger and reaches its tentacles into psychiatric journals and the anti-psychiatry movement in today's episode.

0:08.7

When Jeffrey meets Galane.

0:14.0

Welcome to the Carlatte Psychiatry podcast, keeping psychiatry honest since 2003.

0:19.8

I'm Chris Sagan, the editor-in-chief of the Carlatte Psychiatry Report.

0:23.5

And I'm Kelly Newsom, a psychiatric MP and a dedicated reader of every issue.

0:30.7

In our last episode, we traced Epstein's early years, up to 1994.

0:36.5

We saw him cross boundaries and break some rules, but nothing like

0:39.7

the typical biography of a burgeoning antisocial. Today we'll tell the story of how Jeffrey Epstein

0:45.1

met Galane Maxwell. Come along and you'll learn some psychiatric facts along the way, like whether

0:50.4

money leads to happiness, what kind of stress causes depression,

0:58.3

and why the FDA changed their requirements for new drug approvals last month.

1:02.2

But first, a preview of the CME quiz, which you'll find in the show notes. According to a 2003 twin study, which pair of stresses have the strongest link to depression?

1:19.7

A, resource insecurity and defeat.

1:23.4

B, threaten loss.

1:25.7

C, defeat and humiliation. D. Loss and Humiliation.

1:34.8

It's not until 1994 that we have the first clear report of abuse of a minor by Epstein.

1:47.3

And this wasn't made public until last December.

1:50.9

The setting was the interlock in arts camp in Michigan,

1:54.3

the same camp where a 14-year-old Epstein played bassoon on a scholarship years before.

2:00.3

Now, 42 and wealthy, Epstein returns to the camp as a benefactor,

2:05.9

donating money to build a cabin for scholarship students,

2:09.3

officially christened as the Epstein Lodge.

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