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He's interviewing Jeff McSwain.

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Well, welcome to On Script. Today we're going to be interviewing Dr. Jeff McSwain about his book, Simul Sanctification.

Jeff is the founder and currently Director of Ministry Formation at Reality Ministries Inc in Durham, North Carolina.

And the NGO's mission is, and I'm quoting here,

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