Welcome to another segment of Beyond the Grassy and Oll.

And our guest today has somebody who has been a bit of a correspondent more or less for a little bit of time, I guess, probably over a year.

He also kept in touch with the Utekins for 9-11 Truth, Andy Sr. and Herb Smith.

And so we all kind of exchanged emails and got a pulse kind of of what was happening in each's venue.

And his name is Jeffrey Long.

He is involved with the DC 9-11 Truth Movement and also with a publication called the Rock Creek Press,

which we'll talk about as well.

But Jeffrey, listen, thanks for coming on.

I'm glad that you were willing to talk about what you saw on your watch.

Well, I do appreciate that.

Thanks for getting me on here.

Well, let's do this. Okay.

As encyclopedically as you can, in terms of being supposedly objective, can you tell

us about the origin of the DC 9-11 group, when that happened, who were the driving principles in it, etc.?

What I can do, I can do a part of that because I got into the group about three years ago, one October, so just a little bit over three years ago.

And when I got there, when I heard about it, I had maybe it's almost four years now.

I heard about the group through a list serve somewhere and moved up here recently for a job

up to D.C. and was looking for somebody to actually talk to about this kind of stuff.

And when I found the group, when I first got there, I had gone to about four meetings in a row.

They'd hold one once a week, and I was just getting my feet wet, seeing what was going on, just sitting in the background, watching.

And what I sort of learned was that the group had started maybe a year and a half before that,

just a couple people.

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