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channel where we're having some great back and forth on the Slack every day. And I don't want you guys miss out on that. So make sure you're coming through, checking us out and giving us an opportunity. I'm joined by a great guest today. Jeff Lloyd, Jeff and I have done podcast for a long time now. It's like, geez, Jeff, we're going on pushing closer to 10 years than it is any other year, Mark, at this point where we've joined up during various, various portions of the year. Jeff with Lockdown Browns for a long time now doing great stuff with the OBR. Make sure you're checking out his weekly shows that are going on there that are, again, just fantastic stuff. I always appreciate getting Jeff's perspective around this time of year around the draft because it's just fun. It's just fun now to be back involved in the first round of it and

get some opinions on players that really matter for the draft. So I welcome you and Jeff. And with a Hardy, what's up, man? How are you? We're good. You know, I totally agree with you because I think, you know, there's a large faction of social media that's like, I'm so done

with this. And, you know, they don't want to, I haven't been able to talk about, you know, a top 64 prospect in three years. I mean, you know, I'm going to enjoy this, you know, I mean, with the Browns having only one selection in the first two rounds in the last three years Mike Hall Jr.

You kind of miss this.

And, you know, the other thing, and I'm sure you rounds having only one selection in the first two rounds in the last three years at Michael Jr.

You kind of miss this.

And, you know, the other thing, and I'm sure you understand, you know, it was really, look,

we've always had our work for the year kind of laid out.

And when it got to draft time, you know, it's a lot easier to say, hey, and it's great now because, you know, with Tennessee looking like they're so firmly entrenched with Cam Ward, the Browns are all the talk. You would think they have the number one pick right now, essentially, because basically Cam Ward's done. But it was really hard the last couple of years to say, well, here's this guy who's ranked 103 overall. Okay, out of Kansas.

No name's rather than ever heard of him.

But this guy could possibly make a difference for the Browns.

Exactly.

And, you know, with all this now and, you know, certainly with the way the roster is and pretty wide open, you know, there's a lot of conversations that we had.

And I think most people,

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