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This is Fr air. I'm Terry Gross. I think it's fair to say that everyone who watched

the HBO series Somebody Somewhere, including me, wanted actor Jeff Hiller to be their friend.

He played Joel, a sympathetic and supportive friend with a

great sense of humor. Somebody somewhere was the big break Hiller had been hoping for for decades.

As he writes in his new memoir, if you're obviously gay but not hot, your roles are limited.

You just play The Bitchy Gay, which is what he played in lots of small parts and

episodes of lots of different TV shows and commercials. More recently, he played a serial killer

who targets gay men in American Horror Story. His new memoir is called Actress of a Certain

Age, a 20-year trail to overnight success. Somebody Somewhere concluded its third

and final season last December. Now Jeff Hillers nominated for an Emmy for Best Supporting

Actor in a Comedy Series. The story is built around the characters of Sam, played by Bridget

Everett, and Joel, Jeff Hiller's character. When the series begins,

Sam had returned from New York to Manhattan, Kansas, where she grew up, to help care for her

sister who was dying of cancer. After the sister's death, Sam stays in Kansas where her other

sister still lives. Sam has no friends there and has an argumentative relationship with her

sister. Sam feels so lost and rejected that she takes offense easily and doesn't realize that in order

to avoid rejection, she's pushing people away. But she becomes very close to Joel. He introduces her to

his found family of LGBTQ people,

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