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Welcome folks to episode 3,773 of the survival podcast.

We're hitting it just a little bit early, but early's okay.

Late is never good.

So we'll take advantage of an extra five minutes of buffer today.

We're going to be talking today with a great guest.

I should have asked him, but I think it's Berkinshaw, Jeff Berkinshaw.

I always try to ask people with their last name, and I forgot to do that in our pregame.

I hate Ms. Proust is somebody's name, but he's going to be talking about, well, you can

see it right there in the title, living off grid like a millionaire.

Can you really do that?

Well, I mean, I guess if you are like a multimillionaire, you probably can, but what if you're

not?

We're going to be talking to Jeff about that.

We're going to talk about how he got started.

And what was the motivation to do it?

Doing it with kiddos, because this is not a,

some guy that just went off by himself,

him and his wife and his girls,

live kind of out in the wilds of,

I don't know what province,

but they're somewhere up in Canada.

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