Jeet Heer: It Shouldn’t Shock You That Afghanistan Collapsed So Quickly

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🗓️ 24 August 2021

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“The fact that everything collapsed so quickly to me vindicates Biden’s decision,” Jeet Heer says on this week’s second episode of The New Abnormal. “If you read the Afghanistan Papers, none of what’s happening is shocking. One of the big things that comes out of [the story] is the weakness of the Afghan government, which is really a pumpkin government,” he tells Molly Jong-Fast and Jesse Cannon. “Like it’s like a bunch of guys with a phony-baloney jobs and offices and big sacks of money.” Then they are joined by supermodel Carré Otis, who earlier this month filed a lawsuit accusing former Elite Model Management executive Gerald Marie of sexually assaulting her multiple times in the 1980s. Also joining the podcast is The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent, who in large part agreed with Heer. “This is kind of a real disastrous mess, but I think it probably was inevitable given all the failures that have led up to this point,” Sargent says. “And there’s probably no neat and tidy way to do this. And in the end that, you know, it had to be done. That would be where a good chunk of mainstream Americans ends up landing.” If you haven't heard, every single week The New Abnormal does a special bonus episode for Beast Inside, the Daily Beast’s membership program. where Sometimes we interview Senators like Cory Booker or the folks who explain our world in media like Jim Acosta or Soledad O’Brien. Sometimes we just have fun and talk to our favorite comedians and actors like Busy Phillips or Billy Eichner and sometimes its just discussing the fuckery. You can get all of our episodes in your favorite podcast app of choice by becoming a Beast Inside member where you’ll support The Beast’s fearless journalism. Plus! You’ll also get full access to podcasts and articles. To become a member head to newabnormal.thedailybeast.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:50.8	I'm a left-wing pundit and an editor at large at The Daily Beast. We're here to have fun,
0:56.3	sharp conversations with some of the smartest people in media, politics, and science that help make
1:02.3	what's happening in the country and the world clearer. Our world has been turned up to a down.
1:07.4	On the new abnormal, we'll talk about the people who got us into this mess and figure out how to
1:12.8	get ourselves out of it. And I'm producer Jesse Cannon. I'm here to make sure things don't go too far
1:17.6	off the rails. Today we have a super insightful show. Actress and model Karaotis is going to talk to
1:23.0	us about her journey of coming forward about being raped as a young girl by Gerald Marie.
1:28.0	Then we'll talk to the Washington Post Greg Sgt about the latest fuckery in Washington in the media.
1:33.1	But first, we have Kyle Mustethanation and sub-stacker, GD.
1:37.4	Welcome back to new abnormal GD.
1:40.2	Good to be here as always. As much as we're all fucking sick of it, I think we have to start with
1:45.2	Afghanistan. Sure, yeah, I don't mean it is the kind of big news of the last two weeks, yes.
1:51.2	But you know what's so interesting to me is like these fucking people, these are the people who
1:55.8	never gave shit about human rights, right? I mean, who never, I mean they couldn't find an
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