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The Interview

Jean-Noël Barrot: A snap election in France

The Interview

BBC

News, Government, Politics

4.3537 Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2024

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Stephen Sackur is in Paris to speak to the French Minister Delegate for Europe, Jean-Noël Barrot. President Emmanuel Macron has just taken the gamble of his political life, calling a snap parliamentary election in an effort to outsmart the extremes of right and left. If it backfires, what will it mean for France and Europe?

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0:00.0

Welcome to Hard Talk from the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. I'm in Paris at the

0:06.4

K d'Orsay, the grand building on the banks of the River Seine, which houses the French

0:11.3

foreign ministry, and the office of my guest, Jean-Nuel Barreau, France's Minister for Europe.

0:19.0

This is an interview recorded on June the 12th.

0:22.6

Mr. Barreau is a centrist politician typical of the Macron era,

0:28.3

a youthful technocrat wielding significant power.

0:32.4

But for how much longer?

0:35.0

President Macron just sent shockwaves through French politics by calling a snap

0:40.1

parliamentary election. The first round will be at the end of the month, the decisive second round

0:45.8

a week later. Now, the catalyst for this jaw-dropping decision, European election results,

0:52.5

which saw Marine Le Pen's far-right party win more than double the votes

0:57.9

and seats of Macron's centrist movement. The president's response was to tell the French public

1:03.4

they must decide whether to give parliamentary control to what he labels far-right extremists, or consolidate the power of those he claims to be

1:15.2

the guardians of French and European values. The outcome will have huge repercussions, not just

1:22.0

in France, but across Europe. Is this a gamble President Macron will come to bitterly regret? Well, Jean-Nuel Barreau joins me now.

1:32.4

Welcome to Hard Talk. Thank you. How surprised were you by Emmanuel Macron's pretty extraordinary

1:40.8

decision to call a snap election? Well, obviously, I was surprised because it's a very unique way to take a democratic

1:49.3

decision when the political situation in a given country is so severe that it basically

1:56.8

limits the ability of the country to act for itself.

2:03.2

There are very few leaders in this world that would take such a democratic decision in the face of such important choices.

2:09.1

Such a democratic decision, you say, many French people, including people very close to

2:15.6

Emmanuel Macron, would call it an almost crazy gamble.

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