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This week on the podcast, I have an extra special guest. She is Gene Case and she is not only

a former senior executive at America Online from its earliest days. She also runs the Case

Foundation. Her husband is Steve Case. They set this up 20 years ago. If you are at all interested

in things like technology and impact investing and millennials and what the future of philanthropy

looks like, you're really going to enjoy this conversation. She not only was there in the very

early days of internet technology and how that ate the world, but she has been on the forefront

of changing the way people donate money to have an effect on other causes. It's really quite

fascinating. She's a very, very interesting person, so knowledgeable. This was just delightful

with no further ado, my conversation with Gene Case.

I have an extra special guest today. Her name is Gene Case. Gene was a pioneer in the world of

interactive technologies. She ran the marketing and branding effort that launched the AOL service,

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