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The NPR Politics Podcast

JD Vance stumps for Hungary’s Orbán

The NPR Politics Podcast

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News, Daily News, Politics

4.425.7K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Vice President JD Vance was in Hungary this week campaigning for Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, who faces a tough path to reelection. We discuss why the Trump White House is backing Orbán, and whether that support fits into President Trump’s America First vision. 

This episode: senior political correspondent Tamara Keith, White House correspondent Danielle Kurtzleben, and international correspondent Rob Schmitz.

This podcast was produced by Casey Morell and Bria Suggs, and edited by Rachel Baye.

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0:00.0

Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Tamara Keith. I cover politics. I'm Danielle Kurtzleben. I cover the White House. And NPR's Rob Schmitz is with us. Hey, Rob.

0:13.5

Hey, Rob. Hey, guys. So today on the show, Vice President J.D. Vance is just back from a campaign rally to drum up support ahead of upcoming elections.

0:23.4

Except the elections are not in the United States. He was in Hungary, attending events to support the country's prime minister, Victor Orban, as he seeks re-election this month.

0:35.8

Rob, I want to start with you because you're in Budapest right now.

0:39.3

Tell us about Orban.

0:41.5

Victor Orban is Europe's longest-running prime minister.

0:44.9

He's been in power for more than 15 years straight after serving for other years as prime

0:49.7

minister in the late 90s.

0:51.5

He is famous for his populist nationalist far-right politics. He's friends with

0:56.8

Vladimir Putin. He is a staunch enemy of the EU, and he rails against the European Union

1:02.9

on an almost daily basis. And he is also known for another thing, and that's his corruption.

1:11.7

He has well-documented cases of corruption, of giving money to his friends and family,

1:17.4

doling out government contracts to them.

1:19.7

He's also famous for chipping away at Hungary's democratic institutions, including the judiciary.

1:27.3

He has consolidated the media,

1:29.5

and he's attacked civil society and also universities inside of Hungary.

1:34.7

Let's talk a little bit more about that corruption you mentioned, Rob. What does that look like?

1:40.5

Well, despite the fact that the media in Hungary has been mostly consolidated, there amazingly remains some independent journalists in this country that are continuing to do some extremely good work.

1:52.9

And we're seeing more and more stories about Orban's connections to not only his corruption side of Hungary, and that is almost like a familial

2:04.2

network of oligarchs that he's helped over his many years as prime minister, but also

2:11.4

his government's relationship with Russia, we've seen in recent weeks leading up to this election,

2:17.3

leaked audio of conversations

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