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Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast.

I'm your host Tim Miller.

Delighted to welcome to the show,

the Governor of Illinois, J.B. Pritzker. How you doing? Hey, Tim, doing well. I'm not sure how to answer that question these days. You're fighting it. Yes, we are. We're in the middle of it. I was in Chicago for Oasis a couple months ago, and I tried to get a long, you know, in person hang with you. You know, we're going to go to the bar, discuss favorite oasis songs, you know, discuss, who knows what your political future might hold. Drink some alert. Drink some all right. So we're not to postpone that for the future and get due news for today because there's a lot happening with you. I was wondering if you could just start by telling us the latest from the ground. You know, for those of us kind of consuming this via social media, you know, and the news, it's sort of hard to tell. Like, are the ice operations ramping up? Are there more agents or fewer? You know, what's the status with the troops? It's kind of give us a lay of the land. Yeah. So maybe I'll start with what I think most people are paying most attention to, which is the troops. The troops have been under a temporary restraining order kept on federal land, on a federal installation. The Texas

troops, the Illinois troops are on our state facilities, but they've still been federalized. And then there

are actually some California troops that are here as well. But all of them kept in place because of the

temporary restraining order, and that went through an appeal to an appeals court, and we won that as well.

So at least for the time being, they are not on the

streets of Chicago or anywhere else. More broadly, I think it's important to recognize that

ICE is not just operating in Chicago. They're really operating in the entire Chicago land area,

so we're talking about the suburbs and places that, you know, you would never suspect or see anything like what we're

now seeing with ICE.

So, you know, there's now a whole bunch of people in areas across the region that are being

affected by ICE.

And then I'll say, since we won the TROs, the TRO and the appeal, ICE has ramped up its operation and spread out to a whole

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