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The Brian Lehrer Show

Jazz Legacies

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

York, News, Politics, Radio, Arts, News Commentary, Public, Lerer, Media, Wnyc, Bryan, Daily News, New, Nyc, Npr

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2026

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Elizabeth Alexander, president of The Mellon Foundation, discusses a new cohort of jazz fellows, and saxophonist Gary Bartz talks about his career as a jazz musician.

Transcript

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0:00.0

No, that's not the Brian Larishelle theme. It's the legendary saxophone player, Gary Barks,

0:15.6

who will join us in a minute as he was being honored in 2024 at the Kennedy Center.

0:21.9

Remember the Kennedy Center?

0:24.1

Here's why Gary Bartz.

0:26.0

Remember before the Oscars when Timothy Shalame

0:28.8

was worrying about the future of movies on CNN,

0:32.1

and he said this?

0:33.9

I don't want to be working in ballet or opera

0:36.2

or things where it's like, hey, keep this thing alive, even though no one cares about this anymore.

0:41.3

All respect to the ballet and opera people out there.

0:44.4

Well, you've heard that clip.

0:45.6

Almost everyone heard that clip and had their opinions about whether Salome was unfairly dissing some great and still vibrant art forms, right?

0:52.7

But when they got to the actual Oscar ceremony,

0:56.1

did you catch this little quip in Conan O'Brien's opening monologue?

1:01.3

Security is extremely tight tonight.

1:03.7

I just got to mention that.

1:04.6

Yeah, I'm told there's concerns about attacks

1:07.1

from both the opera and ballet communities.

1:18.8

Yeah. attacks from both the opera and ballet communities. They're just mad you left out jazz.

1:22.6

Oh, they're just mad you left out jazz.

1:25.1

Ouch, it wasn't enough that Timothy Shalame said ballet and

1:28.5

opera are over, except for arts preservationists. Now Conan O'Brien said it about jazz. And it made

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