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Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of the Daily Stood Podcast. It feels literally like an eternity ago now, but in fact it was only June of 2019, maybe August of 2019.

Anyways, the late summer of 2019, I think my publisher portfolio flew me out to Los Angeles to pre-record a bunch of interviews for my then upcoming Stillness's Deque, which has now been out for over a year.

But anyways, one of the interviews I went and did was with my friend Jay Shetty. I've known Jay forever. We used to go for walks whenever I'd come to New York. He interviewed me think way back for a Daily Stoic launch, maybe even for a couple different online shows he did.

And while I was with Jay, he was telling me about his new book, which he'd sent me a new copy of. And so I interviewed him for the Daily Stood Podcast thinking that his book was going to be coming out in the spring of 2020. I'd run the interview on this show.

But life intervened and think like amongst launch, which is a great book. Think like amongst launch was postponed because of the pandemic and then it came out this fall. And then we lost the file and we couldn't do it. And I just got it from him. And so here is my interview with Jay Shetty, whose new book, Think Like Among Us has been a best seller.

You've seen Jay everywhere. He's got millions of Instagram followers. It's a great follow and he's been on Ellen and a bunch of other places as it happens. Not only had so much time pass, but also the format of the show has has changed.

So originally we were doing a short sort of 10, 15 minute episodes. Now we do these longer interviews. So what I set up with Jay is we have my interview with him at the front. And then we have a chunk of his interview with me at the back.

So this is a full hour long episode. But it's more like a conversation because it's two people talking. I interview him a little bit. He interviews me a little bit. And I'm excited to present this interview with Jay Shetty.

You can check out Think Like Among Us. You can follow him at Jay Shetty. I'm pretty much all the social platforms. And I hope you like this one. I hope nothing feels too dated. It feels so much is transpired in the world since we recorded that. But here we go.

I'm here with Jay Shetty who's probably done more to popularize ancient wisdom and philosophy and spiritual insights and basically anyone you're a master of Facebook and YouTube and Instagram and all that.

My question for you is your book is Think Like Among. What is the difference between how among things and like. Do you know Stephen Pressfield?

I don't know. I'm passing by. He has this idea. There's like amateur thinking and professional thinking right and he has different like a professional artist thinks this way and amateur artists thinks this way. But like has a monk thing and how does it not monk think. Can you?

Yeah, absolutely. Yes. First of all, thanks for doing this right now. I really appreciate it. And I'm happy to talk with you. I'm a big fan of your books. So it's always nice to talk books with someone who's deeply into books.

For me, it's the difference though, monks here as as the monk mind and the monkey mind. So the monkey mind is considered to the part of our minds that is like jumping from bronze to bronze and just being distracted by different fruits on every tree.

Whereas the monk mind is focused intentional and aware at all times the monkey mind is looking at self fish desires and really desires of hoarding and finding its own little corner just to store all its stuff whereas the monk mind is looking at service and selflessness and giving.

The monkey mind is fascinated by comparison, complaining and criticism like, oh, like what's the latest gossip and how do I like how do I make myself feel better or worse based on everyone else.

Sure. Whereas the monk mind is finding significance in its own identity. So those are just some of the broad differences you see in the monk and the monkey mind and the monkey mind is something I think we all experience every day.

And it's there when we're on our way to work, it's there when we're scrolling through Instagram, it's there when you're talking to your partner, you're dinner with another couple.

Yeah. And so that monkey mind is something we're very aware of. When I wrote this book, I wanted to share the monk mind because I wanted to share the alternative, the antidote.

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