Hey everyone. A quick heads up before we get to today's episode. This fall, Discovery Institute

Academy will be offering both high school biology and high school chemistry for the coming school year.

These high-quality online courses are designed especially for homeschool students. They cover the

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These courses are a wonderful way to raise up the next generation of scientists, scientists

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For more information, visit Discovery Institute.

Dot Academy. That's Discovery Institute.com. ID, The Future, a podcast about evolution and intelligent design.

In 2024, we lost a giant in the intelligent design research community.

With PhDs and molecular and cell biology from UC Berkeley and religious studies from Yale,

Dr. Jonathan Wells was a scientist,

a scholar, and an iconoclast who demonstrated unusual courage and not only in the science world,

and he wrote some of the most important literature on the controversy pitting evolution against intelligent design.

My guest today is Dr. J. Richards, a longtime friend and

colleague of Dr. Wells, to share some of his memories of a great scientist and a great man.

Dr. Richards is director of the DeVos Center and William E. Simon Senior Research Fellow at the

Heritage Foundation. He's also a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute,

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