Jay Hoag - Keys to Successful Growth Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.429]

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy

Colossus

Investing, Business, Technology

4.8 • 2.4K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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My guest today is Jay Hoag. Jay is the co-founder of Technology Crossover Ventures, known as TCV, which pioneered the growth investing category and has backed legendary companies like Netflix, Spotify, and Expedia over three decades. Jay explains how macro factors like regulation have become unexpectedly central to technology investing. He offers his contrarian take on today's market, arguing that consumer internet represents significant opportunity while most investors chase SaaS and AI deals. We discuss investing in new technology versus commercialization, TCV’s evolution from cold-calling to AI-powered sourcing of 11 million companies, and their three-person unanimous investment committee structure. Please enjoy my conversation with Jay Hoag. For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠here.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ----- This episode is brought to you by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ramp⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Ramp’s mission is to help companies manage their spend in a way that reduces expenses and frees up time for teams to work on more valuable projects. Go to⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ramp.com/invest⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to sign up for free and get a $250 welcome bonus. – This episode is brought to you by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Ridgeline⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Ridgeline has built a complete, real-time, modern operating system for investment managers. It handles trading, portfolio management, compliance, customer reporting, and much more through an all-in-one real-time cloud platform. Head to⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ridgelineapps.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more about the platform. – This episode is brought to you by⁠⁠⁠⁠ AlphaSense⁠⁠⁠⁠. AlphaSense has completely transformed the research process with cutting-edge AI technology and a vast collection of top-tier, reliable business content. Invest Like the Best listeners can get a free trial now at⁠⁠⁠⁠ Alpha-Sense.com/Invest⁠⁠⁠⁠ and experience firsthand how AlphaSense and Tegus help you make smarter decisions faster. ----- Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best (00:05:18) Market Conditions and Investment Opportunities (00:06:57) Consumer Internet Businesses and AI (00:09:04) Technology Commercialization Challenges (00:11:30) Public vs. Private Market Dynamics (00:15:32) Growth Investing and Competitive Dynamics (00:22:34) History and Resilience of TCV (00:26:32) Understanding the Firm's Investment Lifecycle (00:27:06) Evolution of Sourcing Strategies (00:28:33) The Role of Data Intelligence in Sourcing (00:29:41) Internal Investment Process at TCV (00:34:31) Challenges and Strategies in Long-term Investments (00:41:15) Reflections on the Investment World (00:43:48) Personal Insights and Final Thoughts

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0:00.0	Something I speak about frequently on Invest Like the Best is the idea of life's work.
0:04.5	A more fun way to think about it is that I'm looking for maniacs on a mission.
0:08.5	This is the basis for our investment firm, Positive Sum, and it's the reason why I'm so enthusiastic about our presenting sponsor, Ramp.
0:15.0	Not only are the founders, Karim and Eric, life's work-level founders, certainly maniacs on a mission.
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0:30.9	Ramp has built a command and control system for corporate cards and expense management.
0:35.1	You can issue cards, manage approvals, make vendor payments of all kinds, and even automate
0:39.4	closing your books all in one place.
0:41.7	Speaking from my own experience using Ramp for my business, the product is wildly intuitive,
0:46.4	simplistic, and makes life so much easier that you'll feel bad for any company who hasn't
0:50.4	yet made the switch.
0:52.5	The Ramp team is relentless, and the product continues to evolve to save you time
0:56.0	that you would never have dreamed of getting back.
0:58.2	To me, there is nothing more interesting
1:00.0	than technologies that reduce friction for other entrepreneurs
1:03.7	to be able to build the thing that they want to.
1:06.2	So much attention has gone to cloud computing,
1:08.8	APIs, and other ways of making life easy for founders,
1:12.5	what RAMP has done and is doing is build yet another set of tools in this category.
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