The Bible doesn't say if you're a Protestant or Catholic or Orthodox, you will be saved.

It says you must be born again.

Yeah, but what does that mean?

Because the rest of the New Testament text talk about that being baptism.

Yeah, well, born again is we have three kinds of death in the Bible.

One is a physical death, spiritual death and eternal death, which is also called second death.

So we die.

What does I have to do with baptism what I just said?

Baptism is an outer, outside.

You're just repeating Protestant Baptist doctrines, and I'm telling you in Titusus 35 it's called the washing of the labor regeneration.

Yes, but that's in the spirit.

Now, how do you know that? You're just asserting that when Paul doesn't make that distinction.

How do you know that every time Paul talks about baptism is quote spiritual?

Well, the baptism was an outer confession.

You're just restating the question I'm asking you. How do you know that that's what Paul means and all those passages about baptism? Because it's all over the Bible. So the answer is it's all over when that's the thing I'm asking you. So in other words, so why are you for the third time going to just tell me your interpretation again? No, it's not my interpretation. It's what the Bible says. That's what you're saying. That's what the Bible says. And I'm saying, no, in John 3, I think Jesus is talking about water baptism. And that's why Acts 2, Peter says, repent and be baptized for the remission of sins. Is it water baptism in Acts 2, 38, 39? But the born again happens at repentance. Is it water baptism in Acts 238-39? Yes, definitely. Oh, it is. But that's where he says is the remission of sins. No, the remission of sins. It doesn't happen with washing in the water. It literally says that in Acts 238-39. No, nobody gets saved by being baptizing water. That's your, yeah, please keep asserting the Protestant doctrine, which is what I'm challenging,

which you said it is water baptism in Acts 3, 38 and 39, and he says that that is the remission of sins.

But listen, when I became a believer, I was...

That's your subjective interpretation. I don't...

It doesn't matter what you matter what your personal experience was.

No, I'm telling you, right now, there are tens of thousands of Iranians who have become

believers in Jesus, and they are not able to get baptized because in Iran there's not

possibility to get arrested, but they love the Lord, and they're not even baptized it, but

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