Welcome to John Gordon's Positive University Podcast.

I'm Daniel Decker, the co-host of the show, and today John is joined by Jay Billis.

Jay is an ESPN analyst, former Duke basketball player, and author of Toughness, developing

strength on and off the court.

This is an amazing conversation where Jay talks about toughness, how we define it, how

we practice it, what mental toughness looks like, and how things like failure impact it.

Lots of great lessons from Jay from his time at Duke, his experience as a lawyer, and

insights on what he's learned begin around some of the best and brightest players and

coaches in the world.

Let us know your top takeaways, post on social, and be sure to tag John and Jay.

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All right, let's jump in and join John and Jay.

Hey, this is John Gordon with Positive You, and today my guest is Jay Billis.

Jay, how you doing?

Great, John.

How are you?

Thank you for having me.

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