Okay, you ready to start this show.

Your host to the evening is a really funny dude.

I forgot his last name, but I've seen him before it.

He's really funny.

Give it up for Mike. Coming to you live on tape.

Coming to you live on tape during week 81 of quarantine.

From my 8 year old son's Week 81 of quarantine.

From my 8 year old son's bedroom in rapidly gentrifying

Culver City adjacent California, boasting a stunning view of currently my neighbor walking a dog. This is the Tully show. I am your host Mike Tully

joining me today a professor of philosophy at Yale and the author of a provocative book entitled

How Fascism Works The Politics of Us and Them. Hello and welcome Jason Stanley.

Thanks so much, Michael.

Are you preparing to not go back to school these days?

Well, I have one semester leave coming up after three years of or four years of teaching.

So I am rigorously putting out of my mind all of the massive details that are required in order to teach this semester and they I am told are massive.

Yeah, I'm sure there's lots of emails coming your way that it's a lot of fun to ignore.

Yes, exactly. That's what I'm doing.

So I want to talk to you about fascism as it regards Donald Trump.

That's my main interest in talking to you, but I do have a question

up front about the rise, the return of fascism as a global trend. It strikes me and this is certainly not

something that only I have observed that very often there are global movements politically

There were all the revolutions in Europe fascism cropped up so many different places in the 1930s

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