Jason Kander

Impolitic with John Heilemann

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🗓️ 6 July 2022

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John Heilemann talks with Jason Kander, an army veteran and former secretary of state of Missouri who was one of the Democratic Party's brightest young rising stars ... until his struggle with post-traumatic stress disorder caused him to walk away from politics four years ago. Heilemann and Kander discuss the latter's new book, Invisible Storm: A Soldier's Memoir of Politics and PTSD, along with the blockbuster testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson before the House Janary 6 committed. Kander lays out his long and torturous battle with PTSD and how it affected every aspect of his life; his decision to turn away (at least temporarily) from public life and seek help in 2018; how his recovery has progressed and what he's learned about living with the disorder; and whether he might ever run for office again. Kander also assesses the 1/6 committee hearings and their potential impact on the midterms in November; the worldwide struggle between democracy and authoritarianism; and the flat-footed response by Democrats to the overturning of Roe v. Wade. And he shares his experience meeting with Barack Obama, who called Kander "the natural" and encouraged him to run for president ... while Kander was still in his thirties. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, John Hylman here and welcome to Hell in High Water.
0:17.6	My podcast with a recount about politics and culture on the edge of Armageddon with
0:21.5	Big Up's to my pal Rizza, the presiding genius behind the sound of Wu Teng Clan, and the
0:25.4	producer of our dope theme music. And today on this July the 5th, first day after a long weekend,
0:33.0	we're somehow absent Grace Weinstein. I don't know what happened to Grace Weinstein, she's
0:37.0	MIA, which is one of the things about kids these days. All you listeners out there, you let them go
0:41.9	free for three days for a long weekend and they just sometimes don't come back. Hopefully that won't
0:47.5	be a permanent thing, but sitting in for the really irreplaceable Grace Weinstein. But for today,
0:52.9	replaceable, we've got Megan Bernie and Marshall Eisen. I mean, when you think about the crack team,
0:59.0	the hot molten core of the Hell in High Water team, these two are hot and molten to the
1:05.4	nth degree. It's like a volcano ready to erupt when you have Megan and Marshall around. Guys,
1:10.6	I ask you, how was your long weekend? Everybody have fun over the course of the Independence Day weekend?
1:16.1	I had a lovely long weekend. I'm not allowed to tell you exactly what I did, but I was one.
1:21.3	Really undisclosed location. Megan Marshall has a side gig with the CIA, so she's just that's
1:26.4	what that's all about. You didn't do any skull duggery or spying over this weekend. I didn't,
1:30.2	but I just know we don't ask Marshall many questions about what he does on his off time.
1:33.8	I know. It's a danger zone. It's like a highly classified material.
1:37.8	I mean, the spirit of the Fourth of July weekend is over. Independence Day is passed, and yet here
1:45.1	are all the Tuesday afterwards. We have a little bit of independence. We're still caught up in the
1:48.3	spirit of it. And so in keeping with that, we have Jason Kander on the podcast. And Jason
1:54.1	notably was a Marmy veteran was one of the credentials that he brought to politics. He did a tour
1:58.7	of duty in Afghanistan back when Afghanistan was a very, very hot war. And he came on the podcast to
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