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You're listening to Sound Opinions and this week we're talking with singer, songwriter and guitarist Jason Isbel on the occasion of his new HBO documentary and his album with the 400 unit.

I'm Jim DeRugatus and I'm Greg Cutt, but first some new music from Detroit Postpunk Band Proto Margar.

Where we chose to forget.

The years are hungry now.

That is a little bit of the song Make Way which opens the sixth album by the Postpunk Band Proto Margar, one of Greg's very favorites.

Formed in Detroit, Greg, back in 2010, same four members ever since, Joe Casey on vocals, Greg Ahey on guitar, Alex Leonard the drummer and Scott Davidson on bass.

We're signing to Domino Records in 2017, a couple of albums ago.

Four album number six, they went down to Torneo, Texas at a ranch and recorded the record that's appropriately titled formal growth in the desert.

What are they giving us this time around? Let's play a track from this album and we'll come back with our reviews.

This is the song for tomorrow from album number six by Proto Margar on Sound Opinions.

That is for tomorrow from Proto Margar's sixth album formal growth in the desert.

That's an interesting title, they did extensively record in a desert, but it also talks about an emotional frame of mind, formal growth, I think that's the key.

A lot of Proto Margar records can seem pretty depressing maybe, certainly downcast, certainly a bleaker view of life.

This record I think has a little bit of a different spin on it. There is light at the end of this proverbial tunnel and a lot of that has to do with the conditions that Joe Casey's writing about.

I mean, first of all, the key themes, the deterioration of Detroit, the deterioration of his mom, who has battled Alzheimer's until her recent death.

The deterioration of the world, thanks to climate change, the deterioration of the homes they're living in.

There's a song in here about how about rats infested his mom's house and eventually a to move out.

So those are elements here. You mentioned the cinematic approach and it's such a cliche to describe an album that way.

But I went back and listened to some of Proto Margar's earlier work and there was no doubt there was more of a raging punky garagey feel to a lot of that music.

They're definitely trying to expand the palette here from a textural standpoint, from a dynamic standpoint.

They're adding this pedal steel player who's bringing in some new textures.

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