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Welcome to the Inside Carolina podcast presented by Jersey Mike's subs of Chapel Hill. Get 15% off your online order with a

promo code, Heels 15. Go to jerseymikes.com slash order now. I am your host Tommy Ashley. I'm talking to Buck

Sanders and Jason Staples and you're listening to the Inside Carolina podcast, sponsored

by Jersey Mike's. And there's been plenty of times over the course of this podcast era,

and over the course of the last many years for North Carolina football, we've had these sort of

talks, and we've talked about confounding blowout defeats that North Carolina football has endured.

And Buck, I want to start with you.

You took a while to digest it and you wrote a column that was on Inside Carolina,

went up Sunday morning.

If anybody's listening to this, hadn't read it.

You need to go read it.

But Buck, I think it was as spot on as it could be i think it's i think the

time is now but i want your thoughts just overall in in writing the column and then the responses on

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