Wondery's new podcast, Disantel,

wades into the glorious mess of celebrity beef.

Each episode explores a different iconic celebrity feud,

and asks,

what does our obsession with these feuds say about us?

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Wondery was podcast number 909.

This episode is brought to you by

Tor Books, the proud publishers of Anonymous by Annaly Newitz,

described by Neil Stevenson as being,

to biotech an AI, what neuro-mancer was to the internet,

and also praised by William Gibson as genuinely thrillingly new.

Autonomous explores a fundamental question,

is freedom possible in a culture where everything can be owned?

So a little bit of the story, Earth 2144,

Jack, an anti-pantant patent scientist,

turned drug pirate,

traverses the world in a submarine fabricating cheap drugs

for poor people who can't otherwise afford them,

but her latest hack has left a trail of lethal overdoses

and people becoming addicted to their work,

...