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We think of the fallen, broken world as normal, in a sense, it's normal for us.

But we also know, as Christians, seeing how God created the world, seeing where he's going with the world,

at Christ's coming, the restoration of all things, that our world now is not as it's supposed to be and not what it was meant to be.

Therefore, the miracles are sort of glimpses of what life restored will be like.

Welcome to help me teach the Bible. I'm Nancy Guthrie. Help Me Teach the Bible is a production of the gospel coalition sponsored by Crossway. Crossway is a not-for-profit publisher of the ESV Bible, Christian books, and tracks. Learn more at crossway.org. I came to the other side of the world to get together with the person I'm interviewing today, who doesn't live on the other side of the

world for me. Jared Wilson is here in Australia where we're both speaking at the same conference.

Jared, thank you for being willing to sit down with me and to help us teach the Bible.

Yeah, thanks so much for having me.

I'm excited to be here.

So Jared is the director of content strategy for Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

You're managing editor of For the Church and you host a podcast for them.

You can tell us about that.

Also, director of the pastoral training center at Liberty Baptist Church

in Kansas City, Missouri. I found this description on your bio. I'm wondering if you wrote it,

okay, because it's not a typical bio kind of statement. This description, it says, Jared is not a catalytic, and it has in

quotes, I liked the quotes, agent of change, or a visionary anything. He is a failed church

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