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Wheels Off with Rhett Miller

Jared Mezzocchi on Creativity, Grief, and Building “Impossible” Theater

Wheels Off with Rhett Miller

Rhett Miller

Music, Performing Arts, Arts

4.9609 Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Theater director, playwright, and multimedia artist Jared Mezzocchi joins Rhett for a conversation about what it means to make ambitious, technology-forward work without losing the human heart of the story. Mezzocchi shares how he’s drawn to projects that seem “impossible” on paper—from a pandemic-era play about content moderation, to a site-specific production about the 1944 Hartford circus fire. He explains why impossibility isn’t a deterrent, but an opportunity for experimentation. The conversation moves into the emotional reality of creative life: the grief of letting go after opening night, the dangerous pull of people-pleasing, and the long work of strengthening what Mezzocchi calls a “sense of self.” He reflects on losing his father at 19, how that shaped his relationship to theater and film, and why mortality, impermanence, and presence sit at the center of his work. Rhett and Jared also talk about AI, technology anxiety, and why friction between machines and humanity may actually clarify what makes art—and people—matter.  Follow Jared @jaredmezzocchi Follow Rhett @rhettmiller Wheels Off is hosted and produced by Rhett Miller. Executive producer is Kirsten Cluthe, Studio Kairos. Music by Old 97’s. Episode artwork by Mark Dowd. Show logo by Tim Skirven. Watch the podcast on Spotify, and listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can also ask Alexa to play it.   Revisit previous episodes of Wheels Off with guests Rosanne Cash, Rob Thomas, Jeff Tweedy, Lucinda Williams, Stewart Copeland, Jennifer Egan, Nick Hornby, and more. If you like what you hear, please leave us a rating or review. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Wheels Off, a show about the messy reality of the creative life.

0:04.8

I'm Rhett Miller.

0:06.5

That's when it got wheels off.

0:09.6

We started up and we ain't going to starve.

0:12.6

Oh, I like you.

0:13.6

I could not.

0:15.1

That's when they got wheels off.

0:17.7

Jared Mazachi is a two-time Obie Award-winning theater artist working as a director, multimedia

0:23.6

designer, playwright, actor. He's taught. He's done everything in theater, I think, that you could

0:33.6

possibly do. Now, realize, I don't know much about theater, and I'm sure that becomes

0:38.8

apparent during the course of this interview, but he is such an exciting, creative person.

0:46.8

You know, the way that he sees things is so, you know what, sorry, you be the judge. So as you

0:53.8

listen to this interview,

0:55.4

please know that I'm doing my best to keep up

0:57.6

because, as I said,

0:59.1

I don't have a lot of experience in the world of theater,

1:02.1

but also I think you're going to get a lot out of this.

1:05.5

It might not be an obvious episode

1:09.8

maybe for you to listen to.

1:11.6

Maybe you are a musician.

1:12.6

Maybe you are a novelist.

1:15.6

And those are the interviews that appeal to you more.

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