4.7 • 658 Ratings
🗓️ 17 May 2025
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Michelle Zauner — aka the creative powerhouse known to the world as Japanese Breakfast — joins us in the studio for the first time ever to talk about her fourth, Blake Mills-produced LP, For Melancholy Brunettes (& Sad Women). A florid and fantastical record, it’s peppered with literary references and sharp observances with regards to both the world and Zauner’s own experiences achieving her wildest dreams in 2021. It was the year both her third album, Jubilee, became a critical and commercial smash, while her memoir Crying in H Mart, chronicling the loss of her mother to cancer, became a New York Times bestseller. (The film adaptation is currently on ice, sadly.)
We discuss all this plus, Zauner moving to Korea to immerse herself in the culture and learn the language for an entire year, her romance and marriage to her guitarist Peter, anxiety, work ethic, and rigor, incels and the manosphere, reconnecting with her estranged dad, and the art of reading the room.
Plus stay tuned to find out more about that one time her and her pal auditioned for The Amazing Race, and why cold mozzarella sticks were involved.
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0:00.0 | Hey, it's the Zach Sang Show. |
0:02.9 | Hello, beautiful human. |
0:04.2 | I'm Zach. That is Dana. |
0:05.1 | Welcome to the studio, a human being who is a New York Times bestselling author, |
0:09.9 | nominated for a couple of Grammys, fourth album to discuss, a very special human being. |
0:16.0 | Please say a little to Michelle, also known as Japanese breakfast. |
0:19.5 | Hey. |
0:20.6 | Thank you. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having known as Japanese breakfast. Hey. Thank you. |
0:21.5 | Thanks for being here. |
0:22.7 | Thanks for having me. |
0:23.7 | Of course. |
0:24.4 | You're very special. |
0:25.8 | But first, I got to acknowledge your shoes. |
0:27.3 | Oh, yeah. |
0:28.0 | You look like a blinged-out pilgrim. |
0:29.5 | I love it. |
0:31.2 | Thank you. |
0:32.0 | It's giving fabulous Mayflower. |
0:34.6 | Thank you. I feel like I could have chosen a better sock, but we'll just scoot these down. Fantastic. Thank you. Can I, you were living in Korea for a while? |
0:43.6 | I was all of last year. When did, when did you come back? I came back on Christmas Eve. |
0:48.5 | Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, it was great. I did not want to leave. So what will force you to come back? |
0:55.3 | I mean, I wanted to come back and promote this record and put on the live show. |
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