We'll hear your argument first this morning in case 16, 14, 66.

Janice versus the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal employees.

Mr. Messenger.

Hey everyone, this is Leon Mayfog from Fiasco and Slowburn.

On today's episode of 5-4, Peter, Rianne, and Michael are talking about labor rights,

in a case called Janice v. AFSPAN.

And they brought in a guest, University of Michigan law professor Sam Bagginstos.

Together they discussed how the Janice case knee-capped public sector unions by limiting

their ability to collect dues.

The Supreme Court has just handed down a decision involving unions.

They've ruled 5-4 that states can't force non-union workers to pay union fees.

But AFSPAN says Janice benefits from the unions bargaining even if he's not a member.

And unions are already prohibited from using non-member money for political reason.

This is 5-4, a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks.

Welcome to 5-4, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have clogged

up the American spirit like cholesterol in our collective aorta.

I am Peter, Twitter's the law boy.

I'm here with Michael.

Hey everybody.

Rianne.

Hi, how's it going?

And our second guest, Professor Sam Bagginstos.

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