What I think is so helpful about this research is that it points to the fact that it's not

one thing that drives people to show up at an event like this.

There are people who were there because they pump conspiratorial media into their brains

constantly, but there are also people there because they listen mostly to news that makes

them angry because it doesn't reflect their perspectives.

It's good to spend some time figuring out who they were, like you said Sarah, not to

make them the center of the story, but to make sure that the rest of the story that you're

telling from there is accurate and as complete as possible.

This is Sarah Stewart Holland and this is Beth Silverz.

Thank you for joining us for Pantsy Politics.

One year ago today, the results of the 2020 presidential election were certified by Congress.

This ordinary procedural act took place after extraordinary violence.

Thousands of protesters encouraged by the insurrectionist rhetoric of former President

Trump and his allies marched from a planned protest on the national mall to the United States

Capitol where they attacked police officers, threatened the members of Congress and defaced

the building itself.

Before we reflect on the events of that day, we wanted to share our conversation with

Politico reporter Olivia Beaver.

Olivia generously spoke with us just a few days after the insurrection, a link to that conversation

is in the show notes, and we wanted to check back in with her a year later.

We recorded this interview on January 3rd, so you'll hear references to Trump's counter-programming

in particular that has since been rescheduled.

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